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Rugby World Cup Daily - Christchurch revisted

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It was an early start for rugby fans in Wales today as their team took on somewhat of a RWC bogey side in Hamilton today. Here is the Rugby World Cup Daily show with a summary of all three of today's matches, as well as a look at the All Blacks on their visit to Christchurch. 

The first game of today saw Wales up against Samoa in what was a vital game to the outcome of Pool D. Samoa actually looked the better side at times, but it was some great defense, a late Shane Williams try, that proved the difference as Wales came away 17-10 winners.

"I thought we showed some great character. A few years ago, or 12 months earlier, we might not have won that game," said Wales coach Warren Gatland.

England had a fairly challenging ride against Georgia early on, but late in the game they scored a few tries that made the scoreline fairly flattering in the end. The Georgian power up front was impressive, and they were within reach for a while, despite some missed kicks at goal. England gave away 14 penalties.

"Some guys were a little bit rusty. We made things a bit more difficult than they were. It wasn't good enough and if we are happy with those standards we'll go home early," said Martin Johnson.

They did win 41-10 though against a powerful emerging nation, so its not all doom and gloom.

In the final match of the day France and Canada entertained in Napier in a game that tested the French, who ultimately ran away with the game, winning 46-19. Canada were within touching distance for a long time though, as they kept hitting back at the French. A hat-trick of tries for Vincent Clerc took it out of reach however as France picked up the bonus point win.

You can view highlights of the games at rugbyworldcup.com. We'll try get a few other random clips up during the week though, so make sure you keep an eye on RD's twitter and facebook.

21 Comments

  • askelkana
    10:18 AM 20/09/2011

    Wales played just as hard as Samoa, but with better discipline, and better skills. Samoa repeatedly displayed indiscipline at the ruck (going off the feet, coming in at the side), which invariably killed any momentum they had, whether in defense or attack.

    Wales' defence was superb. It was never going to be a free flowing match against a team like Samoa. It played out exactly as expected, with it being a brutal, physical contest at the breakdown.

    One could say Samoa were lucky: if Wales had made that try in the first quarter (when Charteris threw a forward pass), it would have been a very different match altogether.

  • askelkana
    10:14 AM 20/09/2011

    Or beyond the Irish to fold against Italy, you mean.

  • askelkana
    10:13 AM 20/09/2011

    Ah, deary me! Being a Frenchman, Lievremont just can't help himself. Anything and everything wrong in the world, in French eyes, is the fault of those goddam rosbifs!

    Hilarious!

    But he does have a point.

  • 8:46 PM 19/09/2011

    I think they could take a leaf from soccer's book (there I said it, shoot me) and try to emulate in some way their calendar organization.

  • moddeur
    1:03 PM 19/09/2011

    The IRB's argument is that airing more top tier matches on weekends enables asking for higher TV rights, which in turn makes more cash fall into the IRB's pocket, which leads to the IRB having more cash at hand to help developing rugby in second tier nations.
    It's a very bad argument, but it's also quite valid in the current form of affairs. To change the current form: pools would need a pair number of teams for a more equal treatment. But would it be good to have an extra 4 minnows in the tournament?

  • redyeti
    12:56 PM 19/09/2011

    Have a nice neutral BBC link :)

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/welsh/14968400.stm

  • natural7
    12:50 PM 19/09/2011

    Yeah, from what it looks like http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2038913/Rugby-World-Cup-Wales-17-Samoa-10-Twitter-attack.html
    (sorry its daily mail)
    he will be in a lot of trouble now...

  • redyeti
    12:43 PM 19/09/2011

    I also think that players should front up and accept losses with some dignity, rather than taking to Twitter to bitch about the turnaround time AFTER the loss... if the complaints came before the match then I'd maybe have some sympathy, but it just makes you look like a sore loser now Eliota :) Especially when your coach has specifically said that he didn't blame the 4 day rest period at all

  • redyeti
    12:40 PM 19/09/2011

    You can't complain without offering a viable solution...

    Either:

    1) The RWC doesn't make any money because the big rugby nations with the largest fan bases and most TV viewers get put on midweek games at 3am GMT (meaning no one can watch)

    Or:

    2) They reduce the RWC to 16 teams, effectively cutting out the 'minnows'. I think everyone agrees this would be terrible for the development of rugby, so this is hardly an option at all.


    The RWC has to be a profitable venture and the only way this can happen is if the bigger teams get the primetime spots. Unfortunately this means the minnows end up playing with short turnaround times.

  • natural7
    12:08 PM 19/09/2011

    Yeah, the problem is that its not "Anglo Saxon logic" rather TV screening rights logic.
    England games at the weekend because we have (probably) the largest fan base and ITV paid a crap load of money for it. Although most England fans have been watching every game they can, especially tier 2nations. Loving the closing gap between top and second tier.
    it sucks but everything is a commercial venture now.

  • eggman
    11:33 AM 19/09/2011

    http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/anglosaxon-logic-bad-for-world-cup-lievremont-20110917-1kepz.html

    Here's a story of the sydney morning herald on what he said..
    Basically said that he doesnt like that the Smaller nations get less time to recover and says that "Anglo-Saxon" logic in the IRB is to blame for it.

  • colombes
    10:51 AM 19/09/2011

    i join most of opinions here.
    the calendar should be inversed, with less days of rest for major nations. France, England, NZ, Oz, SA can put 2 different competitive teams from a match to another, not really the case for minnows.
    Despite Georgia or Canada have fought very well, their last minutes were difficult.
    Don't know if it's an anglo-saxon way to think, as said by lievremont. Maybe more a sponsors way to watch the best teams achieve in the quarters.
    Don't know if it will change for the RWC 2015
    But the Japan rdv in 2019 could be a great turn, and i really hope it

  • kidblue
    4:14 AM 19/09/2011

    I wouldt call it anglo-saxon logic? just stupidity in the IRB i think, i dont think lievrement is correct when blaming a whole nations way of thinking rather than just certain individuals..strange.

  • welshosprey
    1:25 AM 19/09/2011

    South africa should be the nervous ones now, samoa mean business

  • moddeur
    11:05 PM 18/09/2011

    To the question: "The Canadians only have 3 days of rest between their match against Tonga and the one against France. What do you have to say about this?", M.L. answered the following (my translation):

    "All nations are not treated equally. It was the same for Tonga: they only had 5 days to rest before meeting the All-Blacks. It's too little. But this is the Anglo-Saxon logic at work, which thinks it's normal that the powerful be favored, and that the weak figure out a way to become powerful on their own. If it were a French logic, we would talk of equity and would voice outrage about such principles. But it's always been like this, it's nothing new. Since 1987 it's the same story..."

  • buzzkillington
    10:50 PM 18/09/2011

    What did Lievremont say? Can't find a story

  • 10:07 PM 18/09/2011

    might have been the original idea, but now that Ireland has a chance of topping the pool a NH vs SH final is the probable outcome. Not beyond Italy to upset us though...

  • nw8
    8:34 PM 18/09/2011

    I too agree with Full Back. It's also a bit fishy that the All Blacks have what is likely to be an easy match (I hate to say it, as a Canadian) as their last one before the knockout stages. All of the other big teams (except Australia) are up against someone who will wear them down a bit more (RSA vs SAM, WAL vs FIJ, ENG vs SCO, FRA vs TGA, IRE vs ITA). It kind of feels like they're being softened up for the first round. Is this the manufacturing of a NZ/Oz final?

  • stroudos
    6:53 PM 18/09/2011

    100% agree with Full Back.

    Totally arse about face that the teams with the biggest squads and depth of quality get the longest to recover and prepare.

    Nice to see a top-tier coach (Lievremont) calling out the IRB on this, even if his phrasing of his argument was odd, (ie it's all the fault of the English).

    I would say I hope this is addressed before 2015, but it clearly won't happen.

    Anyway, suffice to say that Georgia acquitted themselves extremely well. As I predicted we then saw the RFU Twitter then proclaiming England's "superior fitness" - probably true but bloody should be fitter after a week's rest compared with Georgia's three days.

  • buzzkillington
    6:03 PM 18/09/2011

    I was of course rooting for Samoa(minnows >) but well done Wales

  • 5:56 PM 18/09/2011

    Impressive that Georgia had just 3 days to recover from a bruising encounter with Scotland before the English game and came up with that game.
    I know it's tough on the organizers but some form of equilibrium must be found for 2nd tier nations coming into these big games.
    Great to see their number 7 get Man of the Match, well done!